From douglas at andrepontprinting.com Thu May 1 09:22:07 2008 From: douglas at andrepontprinting.com (Douglas Sandoz) Date: Thu May 1 09:22:21 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] graphics dept question - cutting out backgrounds Message-ID: <000201c8ab8e$5b2f4770$5401000a@DOUGXP> Hopefully I will be wording this correctly. If any of you want to change my wording, please do so. (I am a CSR and mostly estimate and order stock and supplies) Whenever our graphics department gets a job where we need to cut someone or something out of a photo they are using the "lasso" tool from InDesign and manually cutting around the objects to place them on a white background. I notice in a lot of newspaper and magazine ads (professional designed by graphics companies) where they might have 3 or 4 people (doctors in a hospital ad, or bankers in a banking ad) that look like they are standing on a white page with no background, yet they are smooth (every hair shows on their head (if they have hair!)). I have also seen in restaurants like chilis where the menu showed the dishes are smooth with a colored background. I have photographed food in a restaurant with a white smooth background on the original photograph but our design dept. uses that "lasso" to cut around the plates and is not as professional as the chili's, ruth's chris, etc. Anyone know how to do this? Doug Sandoz Andrepont Printing Opelousas, LA From gptype at gillprintandgraphics.com Thu May 1 10:20:59 2008 From: gptype at gillprintandgraphics.com (Graphics Department) Date: Thu May 1 10:23:16 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] graphics dept question - cutting out backgrounds References: <000201c8ab8e$5b2f4770$5401000a@DOUGXP> Message-ID: <007701c8ab96$94141f90$8609a8c0@tiger> There are many ways to do this, depending on your preference and the piece. Sometimes use the masking tool and a brush with a medium to soft edge which allows to change brush size to incorporate those "hairs". Sometimes just create a new layer and erase what I don't want, somtimes lasso but with a feather set, sometimes no feather if it's a clean edge, such as mechanical equipment. Jagged edge can also be caused if using inappropriate dpi settings. Hope that helps. Thanks, Heather Bell Graphic Designer GillPrint and Graphics 2310 Park Place Drive Gretna, LA 70056 (504) 392-9600 www.gillprintandgraphics.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Sandoz" To: Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 8:22 AM Subject: [PrintShare] graphics dept question - cutting out backgrounds > *** This is a PrintShare List Message *** > > Hopefully I will be wording this correctly. If any of you want to change > my wording, please do so. (I am a CSR and mostly estimate and order > stock and supplies) > > Whenever our graphics department gets a job where we need to cut someone > or something out of a photo they are using the "lasso" tool from > InDesign and manually cutting around the objects to place them on a > white background. I notice in a lot of newspaper and magazine ads > (professional designed by graphics companies) where they might have 3 or > 4 people (doctors in a hospital ad, or bankers in a banking ad) that > look like they are standing on a white page with no background, yet they > are smooth (every hair shows on their head (if they have hair!)). > > I have also seen in restaurants like chilis where the menu showed the > dishes are smooth with a colored background. I have photographed food in > a restaurant with a white smooth background on the original photograph > but our design dept. uses that "lasso" to cut around the plates and is > not as professional as the chili's, ruth's chris, etc. > > Anyone know how to do this? > > Doug Sandoz > Andrepont Printing > Opelousas, LA > _______________________________________________ > PrintShare Discussion List > Post: PrintShare@printweb.org > Info: http://rb.enter.net/mailman/listinfo/printshare > > From john at mm-press.com Thu May 1 12:09:50 2008 From: john at mm-press.com (John Zachry) Date: Thu May 1 12:10:20 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] graphics dept question - cutting out backgrounds In-Reply-To: <000201c8ab8e$5b2f4770$5401000a@DOUGXP> References: <000201c8ab8e$5b2f4770$5401000a@DOUGXP> Message-ID: <1C1CAAB7-AD2F-4534-9093-E3B1A9A326A8@mm-press.com> Doug, Photoshop is the tool to use, NOT InDesign. Use either the Lasso tool or my favorite, the magnetic lasso tool or the Magic Wand tool to select the area (or person) you want to save. Go to Select in your menu bar and then "Inverse" and hit delete. This gets rid of your background. You may have to rasterize the layer if it won't let you delete. There is also a quick-mask, which you can go to your "help" area of photoshop to learn all about. I also remember a vendor at MacWorld in San Francisco who had a plug- in that does exactly what you are describing... but can't remember the name. If all else fails, join NAPP, National Association of Photoshop Professionals. (well worth the $99. membership). Or go to a Kelbytraining course if one comes to your area. You can also download photoshopTV shows and watch them on your iPhone to learn more tricks. good luck John On May 1, 2008, at 6:22 AM, Douglas Sandoz wrote: > *** This is a PrintShare List Message *** > > Hopefully I will be wording this correctly. If any of you want to > change > my wording, please do so. (I am a CSR and mostly estimate and order > stock and supplies) > > Whenever our graphics department gets a job where we need to cut > someone > or something out of a photo they are using the "lasso" tool from > InDesign and manually cutting around the objects to place them on a > white background. I notice in a lot of newspaper and magazine ads > (professional designed by graphics companies) where they might have > 3 or > 4 people (doctors in a hospital ad, or bankers in a banking ad) that > look like they are standing on a white page with no background, yet > they > are smooth (every hair shows on their head (if they have hair!)). > > I have also seen in restaurants like chilis where the menu showed the > dishes are smooth with a colored background. I have photographed > food in > a restaurant with a white smooth background on the original photograph > but our design dept. uses that "lasso" to cut around the plates and is > not as professional as the chili's, ruth's chris, etc. > > Anyone know how to do this? > > Doug Sandoz > Andrepont Printing > Opelousas, LA > _______________________________________________ > PrintShare Discussion List > Post: PrintShare@printweb.org > Info: http://rb.enter.net/mailman/listinfo/printshare > From slb at inkspot.net Thu May 1 15:04:52 2008 From: slb at inkspot.net (Steve Blatman) Date: Thu May 1 15:05:21 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] graphics dept question - cutting out backgrounds In-Reply-To: <000201c8ab8e$5b2f4770$5401000a@DOUGXP> References: <000201c8ab8e$5b2f4770$5401000a@DOUGXP> Message-ID: <4819DC14.14659.4C67F9B5@slb.inkspot.net> We usually start with the magic wand tool in photoshop, and modify as needed. In photoshop, it's called "making a clipping path." HTH, Steve > > Hopefully I will be wording this correctly. If any of you want to change > my wording, please do so. (I am a CSR and mostly estimate and order > stock and supplies) > > Whenever our graphics department gets a job where we need to cut someone > or something out of a photo they are using the "lasso" tool from > InDesign and manually cutting around the objects to place them on a > white background. I notice in a lot of newspaper and magazine ads > (professional designed by graphics companies) where they might have 3 or > 4 people (doctors in a hospital ad, or bankers in a banking ad) that > look like they are standing on a white page with no background, yet they > are smooth (every hair shows on their head (if they have hair!)). > > I have also seen in restaurants like chilis where the menu showed the > dishes are smooth with a colored background. I have photographed food in > a restaurant with a white smooth background on the original photograph > but our design dept. uses that "lasso" to cut around the plates and is > not as professional as the chili's, ruth's chris, etc. > > Anyone know how to do this? > > Doug Sandoz > Andrepont Printing > Opelousas, LA > _______________________________________________ > PrintShare Discussion List > Post: PrintShare@printweb.org > Info: http://rb.enter.net/mailman/listinfo/printshare > > > __________ NOD32 3069 (20080501) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > Steve Blatman Ink Spot Printing & Copy Center, Inc. 14 Church Road, Frazer, PA 19355 USA Tel: 610-647-0776 Fax: 610-647-4560 From douglas at andrepontprinting.com Mon May 5 08:38:36 2008 From: douglas at andrepontprinting.com (Douglas Sandoz) Date: Mon May 5 08:38:51 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] graphics dept question - cutting out backgrounds In-Reply-To: <1C1CAAB7-AD2F-4534-9093-E3B1A9A326A8@mm-press.com> Message-ID: <002401c8aeac$f32d4f60$5401000a@DOUGXP> I do apologize. Our graphics people (after reading the replies to them) have informed me that they are using Photoshop not InDesign as I previously mentioned. Doug -----Original Message----- From: printshare-bounces@printweb.org [mailto:printshare-bounces@printweb.org] On Behalf Of John Zachry Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:10 AM To: Discussion List for the Printing Industry Subject: Re: [PrintShare] graphics dept question - cutting out backgrounds *** This is a PrintShare List Message *** Doug, Photoshop is the tool to use, NOT InDesign. Use either the Lasso tool or my favorite, the magnetic lasso tool or the Magic Wand tool to select the area (or person) you want to save. Go to Select in your menu bar and then "Inverse" and hit delete. This gets rid of your background. You may have to rasterize the layer if it won't let you delete. There is also a quick-mask, which you can go to your "help" area of photoshop to learn all about. I also remember a vendor at MacWorld in San Francisco who had a plug- in that does exactly what you are describing... but can't remember the name. If all else fails, join NAPP, National Association of Photoshop Professionals. (well worth the $99. membership). Or go to a Kelbytraining course if one comes to your area. You can also download photoshopTV shows and watch them on your iPhone to learn more tricks. good luck John On May 1, 2008, at 6:22 AM, Douglas Sandoz wrote: > *** This is a PrintShare List Message *** > > Hopefully I will be wording this correctly. If any of you want to > change > my wording, please do so. (I am a CSR and mostly estimate and order > stock and supplies) > > Whenever our graphics department gets a job where we need to cut > someone > or something out of a photo they are using the "lasso" tool from > InDesign and manually cutting around the objects to place them on a > white background. I notice in a lot of newspaper and magazine ads > (professional designed by graphics companies) where they might have > 3 or > 4 people (doctors in a hospital ad, or bankers in a banking ad) that > look like they are standing on a white page with no background, yet > they > are smooth (every hair shows on their head (if they have hair!)). > > I have also seen in restaurants like chilis where the menu showed the > dishes are smooth with a colored background. I have photographed > food in > a restaurant with a white smooth background on the original photograph > but our design dept. uses that "lasso" to cut around the plates and is > not as professional as the chili's, ruth's chris, etc. > > Anyone know how to do this? > > Doug Sandoz > Andrepont Printing > Opelousas, LA > _______________________________________________ > PrintShare Discussion List > Post: PrintShare@printweb.org > Info: http://rb.enter.net/mailman/listinfo/printshare > _______________________________________________ PrintShare Discussion List Post: PrintShare@printweb.org Info: http://rb.enter.net/mailman/listinfo/printshare From douglas at andrepontprinting.com Tue May 27 09:49:45 2008 From: douglas at andrepontprinting.com (Douglas Sandoz) Date: Tue May 27 09:49:59 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] embossing vendor Message-ID: <000001c8c000$86f62370$5401000a@DOUGXP> We are looking for someone that can emboss to make a business card look like an alligator skin. Anyone have a source? Doug Sandoz Andrepont Printing Opelousas, LA From StevePrint at aol.com Tue May 27 09:58:47 2008 From: StevePrint at aol.com (StevePrint@aol.com) Date: Tue May 27 09:59:21 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] embossing vendor Message-ID: Art is needed. You then need to decide what type of Die you want. Brass, Copper or Mag. Single level or multi level on the die. Steve Salstrom Bay Business Printing _www.iorderprinting.com_ (http://www.iorderprinting.com) **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From douglas at andrepontprinting.com Tue May 27 10:51:46 2008 From: douglas at andrepontprinting.com (Douglas Sandoz) Date: Tue May 27 10:52:02 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] embossing vendor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001101c8c009$3347eed0$5401000a@DOUGXP> What company would you send this information to to make actual cards? We have a Heidelberg windmill with embossing capabilities, but our embossing is usually small area with no heat. My customer would like for the entire card to be like an alligator skin. Thanks again, Doug -----Original Message----- From: printshare-bounces@printweb.org [mailto:printshare-bounces@printweb.org] On Behalf Of StevePrint@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:59 AM To: printshare@printweb.org Subject: Re: [PrintShare] embossing vendor *** This is a PrintShare List Message *** Art is needed. You then need to decide what type of Die you want. Brass, Copper or Mag. Single level or multi level on the die. Steve Salstrom Bay Business Printing _www.iorderprinting.com_ (http://www.iorderprinting.com) **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) _______________________________________________ PrintShare Discussion List Post: PrintShare@printweb.org Info: http://rb.enter.net/mailman/listinfo/printshare