From CGoran at aol.com Fri Aug 1 00:07:46 2008 From: CGoran at aol.com (CGoran@aol.com) Date: Fri Aug 1 00:07:55 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] credit card processing question Message-ID: The option suggested to use PayPal is by far a great solution if it will work for your customer. If not, then you should check around, perhaps ask some small businesses in your area who they use. I have found very high prices from local banks. I can check tomorrow and give you some names of companies that process credit cards. One thing I can tell you is to remember that you do NOT have to LEASE your credit card machine, that would be the most important way to eliminate a ridiculously overpriced expense. We started accepting credit cards in our small business well over 14 years ago. We believed everything our local bank told us and to this day, I cannot believe we wasted so damn much money. Our lease was a 4 year contract wherein we paid $39.95 per month for 48 months, just for the processor.. That was $1918 for a machine that could have been purchased brand new for about $300. We also paid out bank a percentage that was double what other CC processing companies charges, plus we paid extra fees that were tacked on. Talk about foolishly wasting money!! If you process a lot of credit cards, you can get free machines, by husband's mom & pop type grocery store processes over $10,000 per month, so he gets very competitive offers constantly from companies trying to get his business. One the other hand, my small video store and copy shop averages less than 500 per month, so I don't have near the power that he gets. The companies that I have dealt with over the past 5 years did offer leasing to me, but I purchased my own machine used from eBay for about $85. I have done the same purchasing for 3-4 of my area small business acquaintances. The processing companies will usually offer you a plan to cover your machine for $5-10 per month if you own your own. I have never used that service, and in the 9 years that I have been in my present business, I have never had any sort of problem with my machine not working. Chris Special Effects Custom Printing 440-647-1515 117 W. Herrick Ave Wellington, Ohio 44090 In a message dated 7/31/2008 2:44:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gwest@onearrow.net writes: *** This is a PrintShare List Message *** I am a one person business and have been asked by a large customer to start providing credit card usage. I have been able to avoid it for 15 years. Can anyone give me advice on cheapest way to setup for not many transactions during the year. Becky Harrison Graphics West Printing & Signs 8601 SW Hopwood Ave. Indiantown, FL 34956 772-597-3987 Fax 772-597-3940 **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From mattlanderson at charter.net Fri Aug 1 02:13:22 2008 From: mattlanderson at charter.net (matt) Date: Fri Aug 1 02:13:31 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] inventory Message-ID: <20080801061325.BISY7436.aarprv04.charter.net@Laptop> Does anyone have a good excel form to track chemistry and plate usage? Matt Anderson Yakima-Herald Republic mattanderson@yakimaherald.com From jeff at hprinting.biz Tue Aug 12 17:04:02 2008 From: jeff at hprinting.biz (Jeff Haines) Date: Tue Aug 12 23:10:37 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] Pagemaker/Vista Message-ID: <20080812210600.8211.19120@hm-pop1.solinus.com> We installed a new computer last week and went with Vista for the first time. It seem that we were able to load all the drivers ok for our printers and all seem to be well until we open Pagemaker 6.5. We can't print from it to anything. Adobe says it doesn't work and they quit supporting Pagemaker so tough luck. We still have a lot of files that are Pagemaker. I'm looking at upgrading my computer soon, but am waiting to decide which operating system I want before upgrading. My fear with saying with XP is that some programs will come out that run only on Vista then I'll be in trouble. Jeff Haines Printing Co. 10575 W. Main Rd. North East, PA 16428 (814) 725-1955 ? Fax (814) 725-2244 email: jeff@hprinting.biz ? www.hprinting.biz From ericklee at copierprinter.com Wed Aug 13 07:38:14 2008 From: ericklee at copierprinter.com (Eric Klee) Date: Wed Aug 13 07:40:15 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] remove from list In-Reply-To: <20080812210600.8211.19120@hm-pop1.solinus.com> Message-ID: <200808130740301.SM50216@EricDell> Please remove me from the list ericklee@copierprinter.com. We are no longer in the printing business and want to minimize printing email. Thanks, Eric Klee Digicor, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: printshare-bounces@printweb.org [mailto:printshare-bounces@printweb.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Haines Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:04 PM To: printshare@printweb.org Subject: [PrintShare] Pagemaker/Vista *** This is a PrintShare List Message *** We installed a new computer last week and went with Vista for the first time. It seem that we were able to load all the drivers ok for our printers and all seem to be well until we open Pagemaker 6.5. We can't print from it to anything. Adobe says it doesn't work and they quit supporting Pagemaker so tough luck. We still have a lot of files that are Pagemaker. I'm looking at upgrading my computer soon, but am waiting to decide which operating system I want before upgrading. My fear with saying with XP is that some programs will come out that run only on Vista then I'll be in trouble. Jeff Haines Printing Co. 10575 W. Main Rd. North East, PA 16428 (814) 725-1955 . Fax (814) 725-2244 email: jeff@hprinting.biz . www.hprinting.biz _______________________________________________ PrintShare Discussion List Post: PrintShare@printweb.org Info: http://rb.enter.net/mailman/listinfo/printshare From goldcoastprinting at earthlink.net Wed Aug 13 09:23:49 2008 From: goldcoastprinting at earthlink.net (Gold Coast Printing) Date: Wed Aug 13 09:23:51 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] Pagemaker/Vista Message-ID: <21006985.1218633829433.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> My suggestion is to get indesign and convert as you need to access the files. Life is so much easier once the files have been upgraded to indesign. Its really not too bad a job. Every once in a while a line drops out of a text box but all yo need to do is open up the box and it comes back. Just make sure you proofread carefully before printing. -Bill -----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Haines >Sent: Aug 12, 2008 5:04 PM >To: printshare@printweb.org >Subject: [PrintShare] Pagemaker/Vista > >*** This is a PrintShare List Message *** > >We installed a new computer last week and went >with Vista for the first time. It seem that we >were able to load all the drivers ok for our >printers and all seem to be well until we open >Pagemaker 6.5. We can't print from it to >anything. Adobe says it doesn't work and they >quit supporting Pagemaker so tough luck. We still >have a lot of files that are Pagemaker. I'm >looking at upgrading my computer soon, but am >waiting to decide which operating system I want >before upgrading. My fear with saying with XP is >that some programs will come out that run only on >Vista then I'll be in trouble. > > >Jeff > >Haines Printing Co. >10575 W. Main Rd. >North East, PA 16428 >(814) 725-1955 ? Fax (814) 725-2244 >email: jeff@hprinting.biz ? www.hprinting.biz >_______________________________________________ >PrintShare Discussion List >Post: PrintShare@printweb.org >Info: http://rb.enter.net/mailman/listinfo/printshare > Gold Coast Printing 785 Walt Whitman Road (Rt. 110) Melville, NY 11747 Tel: 631.271.2775 Fax: 631.547.0213 E-Mail: goldcoastprinting@earthlink.net From jeff at hprinting.biz Wed Aug 13 09:35:12 2008 From: jeff at hprinting.biz (Jeff Haines) Date: Wed Aug 13 09:37:14 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] Pagemaker/Vista In-Reply-To: <21006985.1218633829433.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.s a.earthlink.net> References: <21006985.1218633829433.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20080813133709.5721.1970@hm-pop1.solinus.com> At 09:23 AM 8/13/2008, you wrote: >My suggestion is to get indesign and convert as >you need to access the files. Life is so much >easier once the files have been upgraded to >indesign. Its really not too bad a job. Every >once in a while a line drops out of a text box >but all yo need to do is open up the box and it >comes back. Just make sure you proofread carefully before printing. We have InDesign and love it, but when all your doing is a reprint why convert it and then have to proof everything again. So it's not a matter of cost, but a matter of convenience. An even more important reason we must be able to still support Pagemaker is that we have customers who still supply Pagemaker files on a regular basis. I had another email that seems to work well for our Rip and that is to print to a postscript file. We can then drop that straight into our rip. But for copiers I guess we will need to turn it into a PDF first. So we are still trying to decide if we want to stay with Vista and convert files as needed to InDesign or print postcript when it is not going to our rip or if we should stay with XP. If we go with Vista we'll probably have to keep a computer on XP for a number of years just to support Pagemaker. Jeff Haines Printing Co. 10575 W. Main Rd. North East, PA 16428 (814) 725-1955 ? Fax (814) 725-2244 email: jeff@hprinting.biz ? www.hprinting.biz From gptype at gillprintandgraphics.com Wed Aug 13 11:26:02 2008 From: gptype at gillprintandgraphics.com (Graphics Department) Date: Wed Aug 13 11:24:59 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] Pagemaker/Vista References: <21006985.1218633829433.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <20080813133709.5721.1970@hm-pop1.solinus.com> Message-ID: <003e01c8fd58$e5e441b0$8609a8c0@tiger> Jeff, as you know PageMaker has been replaced by ID, the problems you are having now are only going to get worse as time goes on. Save yourself headache down the road by converting your files now, as they come up. As of now, ID opens PageMaker files very well, so there should be little problem with careful proofing, including your customer supplied work. At some point, as the CS versions continue to update, it is possible that this conversion will no longer be as clean. Best to deal with a small trial now than a huge hassle later. As your customers start to upgrade their machinery, which is inevitable, they will find PM is no longer supported as well (or rather that a "dead" program isn't ever updated and therefore no longer compatible with changing Operating Systems), and have to make the change. Thanks, Heather Bell Graphic Designer GillPrint and Graphics 2310 Park Place Drive Gretna, LA 70056 (504) 392-9600 www.gillprintandgraphics.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Haines" To: "Gold Coast Printing" ; "Discussion List for the Printing Industry" Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [PrintShare] Pagemaker/Vista > *** This is a PrintShare List Message *** > > At 09:23 AM 8/13/2008, you wrote: >>My suggestion is to get indesign and convert as you need to access the >>files. Life is so much easier once the files have been upgraded to >>indesign. Its really not too bad a job. Every once in a while a line drops >>out of a text box but all yo need to do is open up the box and it comes >>back. Just make sure you proofread carefully before printing. > > > We have InDesign and love it, but when all your doing is a reprint why > convert it and then have to proof everything again. So it's not a matter > of cost, but a matter of convenience. An even more important reason we > must be able to still support Pagemaker is that we have customers who > still supply Pagemaker files on a regular basis. I had another email that > seems to work well for our Rip and that is to print to a postscript file. > We can then drop that straight into our rip. But for copiers I guess we > will need to turn it into a PDF first. > > So we are still trying to decide if we want to stay with Vista and convert > files as needed to InDesign or print postcript when it is not going to our > rip or if we should stay with XP. If we go with Vista we'll probably have > to keep a computer on XP for a number of years just to support Pagemaker. > > Jeff > > Haines Printing Co. > 10575 W. Main Rd. > North East, PA 16428 > (814) 725-1955 . Fax (814) 725-2244 > email: jeff@hprinting.biz . www.hprinting.biz > _______________________________________________ > PrintShare Discussion List > Post: PrintShare@printweb.org > Info: http://rb.enter.net/mailman/listinfo/printshare > > > From jeff at hprinting.biz Wed Aug 13 11:31:02 2008 From: jeff at hprinting.biz (Jeff Haines) Date: Wed Aug 13 11:33:03 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] Pagemaker/Vista In-Reply-To: <003e01c8fd58$e5e441b0$8609a8c0@tiger> References: <21006985.1218633829433.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <20080813133709.5721.1970@hm-pop1.solinus.com> <003e01c8fd58$e5e441b0$8609a8c0@tiger> Message-ID: <20080813153259.12259.13060@hm-pop1.solinus.com> At 11:26 AM 8/13/2008, you wrote: >Jeff, as you know PageMaker has been replaced by >ID, the problems you are having now are only >going to get worse as time goes on. Save >yourself headache down the road by converting >your files now, as they come up. As of now, ID >opens PageMaker files very well, so there should >be little problem with careful proofing, >including your customer supplied work. At some >point, as the CS versions continue to update, it >is possible that this conversion will no longer >be as clean. Best to deal with a small trial now >than a huge hassle later. As your customers >start to upgrade their machinery, which is >inevitable, they will find PM is no longer >supported as well (or rather that a "dead" >program isn't ever updated and therefore no >longer compatible with changing Operating >Systems), and have to make the change. So do you tell your customers that you no longer accept Pagemaker files or do you import them into InDesign and then proof it for converting errors and charge them for it? I do see being able to do that at this time. Part of our superior customer service is telling customers that we can work with all major programs that they use to design their stuff in. This includes Publisher and word processing programs. Jeff Haines Printing Co. 10575 W. Main Rd. North East, PA 16428 (814) 725-1955 ? Fax (814) 725-2244 email: jeff@hprinting.biz ? www.hprinting.biz From goldcoastprinting at earthlink.net Wed Aug 13 11:40:29 2008 From: goldcoastprinting at earthlink.net (Gold Coast Printing) Date: Wed Aug 13 11:40:37 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] Pagemaker/Vista Message-ID: <7873507.1218642030131.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> The few who send us pagemaker we tell them we need to covert which is no charge to them but they need to check a final proof. Other than that in about a years time we have converted many PM files and are about 95% coverted to indesign. -----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Haines >Sent: Aug 13, 2008 11:31 AM >To: Graphics Department , Discussion List for the Printing Industry >Subject: Re: [PrintShare] Pagemaker/Vista > >*** This is a PrintShare List Message *** > >At 11:26 AM 8/13/2008, you wrote: >>Jeff, as you know PageMaker has been replaced by >>ID, the problems you are having now are only >>going to get worse as time goes on. Save >>yourself headache down the road by converting >>your files now, as they come up. As of now, ID >>opens PageMaker files very well, so there should >>be little problem with careful proofing, >>including your customer supplied work. At some >>point, as the CS versions continue to update, it >>is possible that this conversion will no longer >>be as clean. Best to deal with a small trial now >>than a huge hassle later. As your customers >>start to upgrade their machinery, which is >>inevitable, they will find PM is no longer >>supported as well (or rather that a "dead" >>program isn't ever updated and therefore no >>longer compatible with changing Operating >>Systems), and have to make the change. > > >So do you tell your customers that you no longer >accept Pagemaker files or do you import them into >InDesign and then proof it for converting errors >and charge them for it? I do see being able to do >that at this time. Part of our superior customer >service is telling customers that we can work >with all major programs that they use to design >their stuff in. This includes Publisher and word processing programs. > >Jeff > >Haines Printing Co. >10575 W. Main Rd. >North East, PA 16428 >(814) 725-1955 ? Fax (814) 725-2244 >email: jeff@hprinting.biz ? www.hprinting.biz >_______________________________________________ >PrintShare Discussion List >Post: PrintShare@printweb.org >Info: http://rb.enter.net/mailman/listinfo/printshare > Gold Coast Printing 785 Walt Whitman Road (Rt. 110) Melville, NY 11747 Tel: 631.271.2775 Fax: 631.547.0213 E-Mail: goldcoastprinting@earthlink.net From communicar at aol.com Wed Aug 13 11:40:31 2008 From: communicar at aol.com (communicar@aol.com) Date: Wed Aug 13 11:40:56 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] Pagemaker/Vista In-Reply-To: <20080813153259.12259.13060@hm-pop1.solinus.com> References: <21006985.1218633829433.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <20080813133709.5721.1970@hm-pop1.solinus.com> <003e01c8fd58$e5e441b0$8609a8c0@tiger> <20080813153259.12259.13060@hm-pop1.solinus.com> Message-ID: <8CACB720D09B454-1158-3ABA@webmail-nd05.sysops.aol.com> Jeff, If you are willing to keep legacy operating systems and/or software to provide superior customer service, make sure they know you are doing this for them. Otherwise, there is little value to the customer. We have some larger accounts who are slow to upgrade, but we communicate with them, and let them know we are willing to support them until they are ready to upgrade. This helps cement the relationship, and hopefully they shop less. Just a thought. Ken Azebu Communicart Graphics & Printing 499 Aldo Avenue Santa Clara, CA 95054 (408) 970-0922 (408) 970-8630 Fax -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Haines To: Graphics Department ; Discussion List for the Printing Industry Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 8:31 am Subject: Re: [PrintShare] Pagemaker/Vista *** This is a PrintShare List Message ***? ? At 11:26 AM 8/13/2008, you wrote:? >Jeff, as you know PageMaker has been replaced by >ID, the problems you are having now are only >going to get worse as time goes on. Save >yourself headache down the road by converting >your files now, as they come up. As of now, ID >opens PageMaker files very well, so there should >be little problem with careful proofing, >including your customer supplied work. At some >point, as the CS versions continue to update, it >is possible that this conversion will no longer >be as clean. Best to deal with a small trial now >th an a huge hassle later. As your customers >start to upgrade their machinery, which is >inevitable, they will find PM is no longer >supported as well (or rather that a "dead" >program isn't ever updated and therefore no >longer compatible with changing Operating >Systems), and have to make the change.? ? So do you tell your customers that you no longer accept Pagemaker files or do you import them into InDesign and then proof it for converting errors and charge them for it? I do see being able to do that at this time. Part of our superior customer service is telling customers that we can work with all major programs that they use to design their stuff in. This includes Publisher and word processing programs.? ? Jeff? ? Haines Printing Co.? 10575 W. Main Rd.? North East, PA 16428? (814) 725-1955 ? Fax (814) 725-2244? email: jeff@hprinting.biz ? www.hprinting.biz _______________________________________________? PrintShare Discussion List? Post: PrintShare@printweb.org? Info: http://rb.enter.net/mailman/listinfo/printshare? From john at mm-press.com Wed Aug 13 12:14:43 2008 From: john at mm-press.com (John Zachry) Date: Wed Aug 13 12:14:50 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] Pagemaker/Vista In-Reply-To: <20080813133709.5721.1970@hm-pop1.solinus.com> References: <21006985.1218633829433.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <20080813133709.5721.1970@hm-pop1.solinus.com> Message-ID: <1B3F06FE-4843-4807-BBDC-20A6BBC72C85@mm-press.com> It' called progress. Adobe is already pretending it didn't exist. Teach your customers the joy of InDesign, they too will convert. Don't be stuck with a whole bunch of files that you'll eventually have to convert anyway. Why not start now. John John Zachry - Owner Minteman Press / Mail Call 2861 Ray Lawyer Dr. Placerville, CA 95667 jz@mm-press.com mm-press.com On Aug 13, 2008, at 6:35 AM, Jeff Haines wrote: > *** This is a PrintShare List Message *** > > At 09:23 AM 8/13/2008, you wrote: >> My suggestion is to get indesign and convert as you need to access >> the files. Life is so much easier once the files have been >> upgraded to indesign. Its really not too bad a job. Every once in >> a while a line drops out of a text box but all yo need to do is >> open up the box and it comes back. Just make sure you proofread >> carefully before printing. > > > We have InDesign and love it, but when all your doing is a reprint > why convert it and then have to proof everything again. So it's not > a matter of cost, but a matter of convenience. An even more > important reason we must be able to still support Pagemaker is that > we have customers who still supply Pagemaker files on a regular > basis. I had another email that seems to work well for our Rip and > that is to print to a postscript file. We can then drop that > straight into our rip. But for copiers I guess we will need to turn > it into a PDF first. > > So we are still trying to decide if we want to stay with Vista and > convert files as needed to InDesign or print postcript when it is > not going to our rip or if we should stay with XP. If we go with > Vista we'll probably have to keep a computer on XP for a number of > years just to support Pagemaker. > > Jeff > > Haines Printing Co. > 10575 W. Main Rd. > North East, PA 16428 > (814) 725-1955 ? Fax (814) 725-2244 > email: jeff@hprinting.biz ? www.hprinting.biz > _______________________________________________ > PrintShare Discussion List > Post: PrintShare@printweb.org > Info: http://rb.enter.net/mailman/listinfo/printshare > From service at printcopyfactory.com Wed Aug 13 14:45:13 2008 From: service at printcopyfactory.com (Becky Raney) Date: Wed Aug 13 14:45:22 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] Pagemaker/Vista In-Reply-To: <1B3F06FE-4843-4807-BBDC-20A6BBC72C85@mm-press.com> Message-ID: I used to tell my customers that Indesign can be downloaded for a free trial And that usually helps them get there. Boy, I have not ran across a Pagemaker file in a while! Becky Raney, Owner Print & Copy Factory 4055 Irongate Road Bellingham, WA 98226 Ph: (360) 738-4931 Fax: (360) 734-6264 www.printcopyfactory.com On 8/13/08 9:14 AM, "John Zachry" wrote: > *** This is a PrintShare List Message *** > > It' called progress. > Adobe is already pretending it didn't exist. Teach your customers the > joy of InDesign, they too will convert. Don't be stuck with a whole > bunch of files that you'll eventually have to convert anyway. Why not > start now. > > John > John Zachry - Owner > Minteman Press / Mail Call > 2861 Ray Lawyer Dr. > Placerville, CA 95667 > jz@mm-press.com > > mm-press.com > > On Aug 13, 2008, at 6:35 AM, Jeff Haines wrote: > >> *** This is a PrintShare List Message *** >> >> At 09:23 AM 8/13/2008, you wrote: >>> My suggestion is to get indesign and convert as you need to access >>> the files. Life is so much easier once the files have been >>> upgraded to indesign. Its really not too bad a job. Every once in >>> a while a line drops out of a text box but all yo need to do is >>> open up the box and it comes back. Just make sure you proofread >>> carefully before printing. >> >> >> We have InDesign and love it, but when all your doing is a reprint >> why convert it and then have to proof everything again. So it's not >> a matter of cost, but a matter of convenience. An even more >> important reason we must be able to still support Pagemaker is that >> we have customers who still supply Pagemaker files on a regular >> basis. I had another email that seems to work well for our Rip and >> that is to print to a postscript file. We can then drop that >> straight into our rip. But for copiers I guess we will need to turn >> it into a PDF first. >> >> So we are still trying to decide if we want to stay with Vista and >> convert files as needed to InDesign or print postcript when it is >> not going to our rip or if we should stay with XP. If we go with >> Vista we'll probably have to keep a computer on XP for a number of >> years just to support Pagemaker. >> >> Jeff >> >> Haines Printing Co. >> 10575 W. Main Rd. >> North East, PA 16428 >> (814) 725-1955 ? Fax (814) 725-2244 >> email: jeff@hprinting.biz ? www.hprinting.biz >> _______________________________________________ >> PrintShare Discussion List >> Post: PrintShare@printweb.org >> Info: http://rb.enter.net/mailman/listinfo/printshare >> > > _______________________________________________ > PrintShare Discussion List > Post: PrintShare@printweb.org > Info: http://rb.enter.net/mailman/listinfo/printshare > Becky Raney, Owner Print & Copy Factory 4055 Irongate Road Bellingham, WA 98226 Ph: (360) 738-4931 Fax: (360) 734-6264 www.printcopyfactory.com From KNoel2020 at aol.com Sat Aug 16 09:37:01 2008 From: KNoel2020 at aol.com (KNoel2020@aol.com) Date: Sat Aug 16 09:37:11 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] Pagemaker/Indesing Message-ID: How easy is the learning curve on switching from Pagemaker to Indesign. I have both but have not made the time to learn Indesign,. I have worked with Pagemaker for 20 years. Karen **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 ) From bob at gallagherprint.com Sat Aug 16 15:13:00 2008 From: bob at gallagherprint.com (Bob Gallagher) Date: Sat Aug 16 15:13:06 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] Pagemaker/Indesin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/16/08 9:37 AM, "KNoel2020@aol.com" wrote: > How easy is the learning curve on switching from Pagemaker to Indesign. Jump in with both feet. Everything you wished you could do in PageMaker can be done in In Design. This comes from a former Quark disciple who hated PageMaker and now embraces In Design. Bob Gallagher Gallagher Printing, Inc. 601 W. Main Street Palmyra, PA 17078 717-838-1527 1-888-838-1527 Fax 717-838-5715 http://www.gallagherprint.com An Adobe Service Provider A Microsoft Publisher Provider Member, Adobe Solutions Network From sirspee600 at earthlink.net Mon Aug 18 09:25:26 2008 From: sirspee600 at earthlink.net (LT) Date: Mon Aug 18 09:25:30 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] Pagemaker/Indesing References: Message-ID: <005801c90135$e0be6b80$6500a8c0@D370> There is no comparison in functionality between the to programs. ID is light years ahead. InDesign has a slightly different work flow. Think one of the most difficult thing for Pagemaker convertees to grasp is that everything the page as an object. Text must be contained in a frame, and that frame is an object. Pictures placed, logos placed, lines drawn etc. are all objects. And there are various ways to make those objects behave. There is a quick start guide you can get which will give you enough instruction to at least the level of functionality you are now getting out of Pagemaker. You can learn the really cool stuff as you go along. Larry T ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 8:37 AM Subject: [PrintShare] Pagemaker/Indesing > *** This is a PrintShare List Message *** > > How easy is the learning curve on switching from Pagemaker to Indesign. I > have both but have not made the time to learn Indesign,. I have worked > with > Pagemaker for 20 years. > > Karen > > > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your > budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 > ) > _______________________________________________ > PrintShare Discussion List > Post: PrintShare@printweb.org > Info: http://rb.enter.net/mailman/listinfo/printshare > > > __________ NOD32 3364 (20080818) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > From bpprinter at aol.com Mon Aug 18 13:19:48 2008 From: bpprinter at aol.com (bpprinter@aol.com) Date: Mon Aug 18 13:20:20 2008 Subject: [PrintShare] Pagemaker/Indesing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CACF6DC068BF59-184-C92@webmail-me03.sysops.aol.com> If you know Quark it will be pretty easy. I have worked in Pagemaker the same amount of time. When Indesign first came out they said it was supposed to be a combination of Pagemaker, Illustrator and Photoshop, but I find it to be much more like Quark. Open some of your pagemaker files in Indesign and you can see what some of the differences are. It may take a little playing but you will catch on. Debi -----Original Message----- From: KNoel2020@aol.com To: printshare@printweb.org Sent: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 6:37 am Subject: [PrintShare] Pagemaker/Indesing *** This is a PrintShare List Message *** How easy is the learning curve on switching from Pagemaker to Indesign. I have both but have not made the time to learn Indesign,. I have worked with Pagemaker for 20 years. Karen **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 ) _______________________________________________ PrintShare Discussion List Post: PrintShare@printweb.org Info: http://rb.enter.net/mailman/listinfo/printshare