[PrintOwners] re: Canon 7095 copier leasing contract - opportunity/problem

Mon Sep 22 13:16:26 EDT 2008

I sent these tips directly to Curtis already, and will put them below, but I
have a Canon 7105 and am also very happy with the halftones.  I assume we're
talking prints here, not off the glass, where I imagine no ones look great.
I'd be highly curious to see what other Canon owners think, because I think
our halftones look fantastic.  This didn't occur to me earlier, but Curtis,
if your friend wants to email me a file, I'd be happy to put it out and mail
it to them.  That way they could see if there's was at least printing as
well as it could be.  Here are the tips I sent Clint again.:

1.  This is one is super simple, and seemingly obvious, but make sure you're
printing 1200 dpi.  The default is 600, (its under the "Image Quality"
heading) and you have to change it in the print settings each time you print
a document.  I almost didn't get the machine because I was disappointed with
the copy quality as well.  I discovered the setting in the showroom, and
neither the sales person or the tech demonstrating had any idea it was
there.  There's also a half-tone setting here you can play with.

2.  There are two PC drivers for this machine.  The PS (postscript) and PCL.
The postscript is the default on they install for you.  Its faster, and the
default for production environments.  The PCL, however, produces FAR better
halftones and screens.  Have your friend tell the techs to install this
driver and try printing to it.  The options are much simpler, as its
designed for an office environment.  This made a huge difference for us, far
more than the first option here.

Borzou Azabdaftari
Falcon Print and Copy
1921 Gallows Road
Suite 150
Vienna, VA 22182
t.703.442.0124
f.703.442.0134
borzou at falconprintandcopy.com

> From: Scott and Gail Finke <sgfinke at fuse.net>
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> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:44:01 -0400
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> Subject: Re: [PrintOwners] re: Canon 7095 copier leasing contract -
> opportunity/problem
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> If the 7095 doesn't do halftones as well as the 8500, doesn't that
> disprove the company's claim that nothing but a color machine will
> work for that? We have an 8500 and the halftones are gorgeous.
> 
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> Gail Finke
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> On Sep 22, 2008, at 10:42 AM, Rick Bird wrote:
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>> Curtis,
>> 
>> I had a Savin 2085 that I was told did almost the same type of items
>> you mention in your email, it too never performed and was told it
>> was set to
>> factory specs. We wound up in court and lost not only the machine
>> but the
>> full cost of it, 5 yrs later it still looms in courts for what my
>> attorney
>> termed as "double Dipping".  When my next purchase comes in less
>> than a
>> month I intend to get Larry Hunts report and go with the best
>> choice based
>> on the service in my area.
>> 
>> JMTC
>> 
>> Rick Bird
>> Gamble Printing & Mailing Inc.
>> 3649 California Road
>> Orchard Park, NY 14127
>> (716) 662-1515
>> (716) 662-5917 - Fax
>> gamble at choiceonemail.com - email
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: printowners-bounces at printweb.org
>> [mailto:printowners-bounces at printweb.org] On Behalf Of Curtis Nelson
>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:00 AM
>> To: PrintOwners at printweb.org
>> Subject: [PrintOwners] re: Canon 7095 copier leasing contract -
>> opportunity/problem
>> 
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>> 
>>      In my opinion....
>> I have a good printowner friend,  not on  this list who signed a lease
>> contract for a Canon 7095 for approx. 60 months.  She has paid 14
>> months
>> already.  Would anyone like to take over the lease?  (It has a fair
>> market value buy-out)
>>     Here is the scenario - 1 year ago, there was 1 year left on a
>> lease
>> for an ImageRunner 8500.  She was showed a sheet from the
>> Underwriter's
>> Laboratory (Canon 7095) which showed a rating of "excellent" on
>> half-tone reproduction.  She never tested the copier in the
>> showroom and
>> simply ordered it on the recommendation of the sales rep.  She
>> upgraded
>> to a Canon 7095 and signed the 60 month lease.  Within 2 weeks of
>> delivery, she began complaining about the lack of half-tone quality
>> (photos and screens).  She does a lot of newsletters with photos and
>> demands high quality.  Many excuses were given, but the final
>> determination (after 14 months) of Canon was - the machine is running
>> perfectly fine.  The company who is servicing it says there is nothing
>> they can do except sell the lease to someone else.  I have gone up the
>> ladder and I'm now waiting to hear back from the one of the upper
>> level
>> managers at Canon Financial.
>> The most recent numbers given to me are :
>> 1.  pay $20,000 and return the machine.
>> 2.  pay $31,000 and keep the machine.
>> 3.  Find someone willing to assume the lease/ or buy it out.
>> They claim the only replacement copier able to make excellent photos
>> would be a color machine on black and white mode (which would cost
>> a lot
>> more to use).
>> Their alternative solution was to upgrade to a brand new
>> ImageRunner 110
>> for $275,000 (I laughed).
>> Neither party is anxous to go to court, but it may have to be resolved
>> in court.
>> The leasing contract seems to indicate the copier doesn't have to work
>> at all - you still have to pay each month...
>> Any suggestions?
>> 
>> Thanks a Million in advance.
>> Curtis Nelson
>> Nelson Industries
>> 438 Reynolds Circle, San Jose, CA 95112
>> (408) 452-0116
>> 
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