[PrintOwners] Results, Digital Creasing Machine Search
Scott Cappel
smc at sorrentomesa.com
Tue Dec 18 15:50:14 EST 2007
Since this list strips out HTML coding, we can't see what is blue or red.
Could you do maybe a column or paragraph listing of your results.
BTW after seeing the Morgana units in action at Graph Expo, I had
been leaning their direction as well.
Its good to hear your thoughts in detail, thank you for your information.
S.
At 11:26 AM 12/18/2007, you wrote:
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>The members of this list have helped me out so many times, that I can
>never contribute enough to be even! But perhaps this information
>from my search for a digital creasing/scoring solution will help
>others. We are outputting our color on a CP500 (Ikon version of the
>C500)
>
>First off, I did not evaluate the Tri-creaser. I would not want to
>add this to my existing, ancient, but still workable folder. When I
>researched their stand alone units, I stopped when I saw the demo
>video. The automated unit actually consisted of the operator having
>to manually slide in one sheet at a time! End of demo for me.
>
>In addition, I did not demo the EZ Creaser by Count Machinery. It was
>a lot less at $7,250, but in my opinion it is built too much like our
>existing numbering machine. Our Graphics Whizard numbering machine,
>like the EZ Creaser has no fixed side guide. On our numbering
>machine, we have to fiddle greatly with the feed wheel pressure and
>placement of rollers to make it feed straight. It is also friction
>fed, but that may or may not be a negative on the EZ Creaser. After
>seeing the CreaseMaster Plus and the Morgana Autocreaser 33, I
>decided not to demo this unit.
>
>End result of my research is that I will purchase the Morgana
>Autocreaser 33. Below is the results of my demos and research. I will
>list the Creasemaster Plus results in blue and the Morgana results in
>red.
>
>Cost: $13,297 plus Air Compressor not provided. $11,995 for Demo
>Unit. (Price was not a factor, but lower price was nice)
>Scoring Results: End result very good, no cracking on 7 stocks
>sampled. End result very good, no cracking on 7 stocks sampled.
>Ease of Programming Score Position: Easy. Easy.
>Guide Bars: Both sides adjust, have to make sure they are straight.
>Back guide is fixed an offers a straight path into the feeding
>system. Only the front guide adjusts.
>Air Delivery System, 1-10 scale (10 highest): 6. 9.
>Actual Speed for 1 score: 11" long stock: 1300 per hour. 3550 per hour.
>Actual Speed for 2 scores: 11: long stock: 1300 per hour. 2544 per
>hour in "Medium Pulse Mode." 3276 per hour in "Stream Mode."
>Noise Factor: Loud Air Compressor. Very loud bang every time creasing
>bar hits. Fairly loud air (not as loud as CreaseMaster), could not
>hear the creasing bar hit at all.
>
>Over all impression: Creasemaster plus seems more difficult to set
>up, harder to keep stock fed straight, etc. The system of feeder
>wheels looks much like our numbering machine, which can give us
>problems. Air delivery system was not as easy to set up as the
>Morgana. It is much louder, especially with the banging each time a
>crease is made. Score itself was very good, but no better than the
>Morgana. The speed was significantly slower as noted above. Overall,
>the Morgana unit is better built and easier to operater. Add in the
>fact it is much faster and to me it was an easy decision.
>
>Of course, all of the above is my opinion and worth what you paid for
>it!
>
>I'll be glad to answer any questions you may have...
>
>
>
>Ben Travis
>
>Copy Express
>4004-A South Blvd.
>Charlotte, NC 20209
>cpyxpres at bellsouth.net
>704-527-1750
>
>
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